ah well,
the helpfile is referencing to Chaos.v4p which is a Subpatch? of the Group (2d) module i dropped somewhere in the 2.0-tikiwiki-forums.

so everybody starting this helppatch with a "virgin"-b25 installation will have 2 red nodes called "Chaos"...
unless this subpatch can be found in

"%VVVV%\modules\Group (2d)\Chaos.v4p"

dear chmee, pls don't take the following as offense:
dear devvvvs, pls DO take the following as offense:

after having a closer look at Cluster (Value) help.v4p
using the free XMLmarker (must-have!) i encountered a funny thing again:

vvvv's xml makes use of (at least two) new attributes called systemname and filename.
again those new attributes are neither documented nor part of the DTD of vvvv

have to complain about this in the bug section.

it's only partly my chaos :D

He Chmee, thanks for this great contribution. Is there a way to avoid multiple ID allocation?

Unless I misunderstand what the output pins are, "Members" is listing the cluster number that each X & Y input slice belongs to, correct?

But I'm seeing numbers in the "Members" output pin that are not in the "ID" output pin list. There's not even a very good overlap; for example, "Members" may contain 0, 2, 3, 4, 5, but "ID" only contains 4 slices of 0, 1, 2, 3. Note this is with constant input data so nothing is changing with time.

How do these pins correspond to each other? What does the "Members" data mean? I had hoped to be able to use that pin to group corresponding Z data, but no joy. Thanks!